He's slightly ahead of Scottie because Wade took over the 2006 Finals and Scottie never really managed to be that guy - even in '94 when he finished 3rd in the MVP voting. 1988, 1986, 2001, 2004, 1997, Posted by Alec on Monday, 04/21/2014 @ 23:04pm, I'll play along: ARE YOU KIDDING ME ?? The Police: 9/10 I don't want to make this 3,000 words so a brief blurb on each player who made a move is below, but happy to answer any questions in the comments. Lou Reed: 7/10 193. Yes: 7/10 The pyramid has been updated with the latest inductees. Posted by GFW on Saturday, 05/25/2013 @ 15:16pm. Janet Jackson: 9/10 Bill Simmons remembers the day when he learned "The Secret" of basketball from Hall of Famer Isiah Thomas, then built his New York Times no. Level Two: Im-Ho-Tep (Boris Karloff) Rush: 2 Posted by John R.C. All The Jurassic Park films Johnny Cash: 10/10 ZZ Top Posted by The Dude on Tuesday, 01/1/2019 @ 14:24pm, How about a pyramid for the Early Influence category, with Wanda Jackson and Freddie King as a 1 because they never should have been inducted in that category? Posted by Philip on Friday, 07/29/2016 @ 14:35pm. In the since this pyramid was first devised the lower levels have been filled with new inductees and they are certainly not multiples of 12 anymore. My theory is that with Costello his look and image are more important than his songwriting. Tracy McGrady, 89. The 2018 Class are probably all tier 2's, except for Radiohead, which is a three or possibly even a four. Talking Heads: 9/10 ), Posted by Joe on Wednesday, 03/25/2020 @ 22:48pm. Simmons, who was elected to the Louisiana Sports Hall of Fame in 2018 and is a member of the Louisiana Tennis Hall of Fame, died Tuesday night after a long illness at the age of 76. Posted by Michael W on Friday, 05/21/2021 @ 14:58pm. T. Rex: 7/10 The Everly Brothers: 10/10 Plebeian, Electric Light Orchestra - 1 Oh Wait, those dimwhits on the election committee have overlooked them again! Eminem (Level 4) The Four Seasons Albert King By choosing I Accept, you consent to our use of cookies and other tracking technologies. Most civilized inductee? 1988 Woody Guthrie Bill Withers Posted by Bill G on Wednesday, 05/8/2019 @ 06:56am. Gene Vincent & The Blue Caps: 7/10 a) metal is actually such a huge genre and scene, easily the largest and most enduring underground music scene. Is Curry already the greatest shooter of all time? John Fogerty of CCR is pretty deserving in this respect too. Run-D.M.C. I can narrow it down to two; Bob Dylan (every singer-songwriter since) and Jimi Hendrix (every hard rock guitarist since). 104. Comments. I cannot think of a single scandal or controversy in which he was involved, and I've never heard or read a negative word about him. Radiohead I'm still not sure how it happened. Buffalo Springfield: 6/10 Most unworthy: Percy Sledge, the one hit wonder whose one hit wasn't all that wonderful. Posted by Follower on Monday, 09/24/2018 @ 17:52pm, Posted by Jason Voigt on Monday, 09/24/2018 @ 17:56pm, Yeah Phillip, you're right. I also feel EXACTLY the same about John Lennon. Rod Stewart 8. "You're So Fine and Sweet" - The Undertakers. CCR: 9/10 1990 Louis Armstrong But if there was an "Early Influences" pyramid, then Sister Rosetta Tharpe would at least be a 4. Level 5 is the top of the pyramid, literally and figuratively. 4 has a few ringers.. Eric Clapton: 9/10 Hell, one of the most commercially successful pop-rock bands of the 21st century (Nickelback) consider Metallica as their biggest influence. The Yardbirds: 9/10 Posted by Handsome Bob on Thursday, 05/16/2019 @ 23:04pm. Frank Zappa They both were a lot closer to the rock world than Ray Charles was during the bulk of their careers. The impressions Either Sam Cooke, Fats Domino, Roy Orbison, or anyone from Motown (remember, they were taught how to move about at high society functions). It ended up being his last great Lakers game. Get Museum Tickets I do think the pyramid needs serious changes cause gaye, prince, franklin, jackson, bowie, and maybe tupac have overtaken taken some of the 5 in recent years in many ways. The Notorious B.I.G: 8/10 Del Shannon: 5/10 Look at this list of artists that have COVERED The MIRACLES' SONGSand tell me that they DON'T belong at level 4: From Wikipedia: Most snubbed artist who is now an inductee (besides Rush and Alice Cooper*)? 99. I can forgive MJ being ranked above the King (though I disagree), but Madge over the Fab Four? Guns N' Roses Janet Jackson I have compiled all of them into the list below with corresponding dates. "Mighty Good Lovin"-Edwin Starr, Chris Clark. Dion Gene Pitney: 5/10 Sister Rosetta Tharpe doesn't count because she's an Early Influence inductee which was not taken into account on this pyramid. Duran Duran, Eurythmics, Carly Simon, Pat Benatar, Lionel Richie would all be level 1's in I'm afraid. Elvis Costello & The Attractions: 9/10 As a Beatle, sure, but definitely not as a solo artist. He's a spot below Worthy because Big Game James was a better overall player, but Parker deserves to be acknowledged - despite the fact that he might be a shitty dude. Run-DMC Deep Purple Inductee that should have been first-ballot (again, don't answer Rush*)? 1986 I think all of the others were placed appropriately. Posted by williams on Monday, 10/21/2019 @ 09:31am, The 2020 inductees Here is Simmons' explanation of the idea (revised for Rock and Roll): So why couldn't we transform it into a five-level pyramid -- seriously, an actual pyramid, like a replica of the Luxor casino in Las Vegas -- where elected [artists] are assigned to different levels? Albert King (lower 3rd) 1)Do you have to consider them in any "best of all-time" discussions? Based on my top 100 Favorite Artists list and looking at the ones who are in the RRHOF, I'll go with Buddy Holly & The Crickets, Chuck Berry, Louis Jordan & His Tympani Five, David Bowie, Fats Domino, Nat King Cole/The Nat King Cole Trio, and Little Richard. The Rolling Stones LeBron James (up from Level 4, below Barkley). Dylan, Buddy Holly, Led Zep, Hendrix Parliament - Funkadelic: 10/10 2005 was pretty good too. Tier 4 is their place. Run - DMC (Level 4) Steve Miller - 1, Posted by Classic Rock on Tuesday, 12/22/2015 @ 17:32pm. The Flamingos 10. And that's the Simmons Pyramid, right? Jimmy Cliff: 5/10 Both from their own testimonies and from pointing out sonic connections. Just gets cut off from the top level. Those are the ones that come to mind. This thread is archived 2006 The Doobie Brothers Hall & Oates: 7/10 Stevie Wonder 117. I can't put a guy in Level 4 who never got to the Finals. Ray Allen [up from Level 1, below McAdoo]. If no one here had an interest in anything earlier than the Beatles, I wouldn't be coming here to gush over Buddy Holly or Fats Waller. John & Bobbie Foster WCON-AM/FM 2015 69. 11. They have 18 acts in their top tier, and based on this David Bowie should be in Level 5. Join us for a Stathead virtual panel to kick off the 2022-23 NBA Season on October 12 at 7pm ET. 3/10 = Mediocre 2000 Outside of Madonna, 2008 was a stellar year. -Most influential? Miles Davis (Level 2) Bon Jovi would, naturally, be closer to the bottom, Posted by Tyler Partnow on Tuesday, 09/25/2018 @ 20:19pm. Posted by Follower on Friday, 12/14/2018 @ 00:18am. (This is an incomplete list, as songs by the Miracles continue to be covered by more artists each year) The Allman Brothers Band Artis Gilmore, 87. Posted by Follower on Saturday, 01/19/2019 @ 16:38pm. James Brown & The Famous Flames: 10/10 1990 Charlie Christian P.S. All You Touch and All You See: Dark Side of the Moon at 50. Tina Turner-3 most best artists list Tina Turner solo, even though it includes her work with Ike, would just be easier to have them slot right next to eachother Beat induction year: 1993, Posted by Mike on Thursday, 02/6/2014 @ 14:22pm. Level 1: I would also move Buddy Holly And The Crickets up to the top. ELO: 6/10 Most weird inductee? Paul McCartney: 8/10 1992 Professor Longhair Feel free to tell me why I'm wrong or crazy or both in the comments. I'd probably have The Moody Blues in Level 2 or 3, since they're name checked as the pioneers of art rock and prog rock. Martha & The Vandellas: 8/10 126. Reserved for the "No-Doubt-About-It" Hall of Famers, these guys were undoubtedly the best at their position for years and years, with all the requisite "rsum" stats to match.unfortunately, there's a distinct, crucial difference between Level 3 and Level 4 (explanation coming). (Yes, feel free to flame me! . Dusty Springfield Journey - 1 219. 218. At present, either James Taylor or Laura NyroI'd say James Taylor -This is covered under "most civilized", don't you think? The Doobie Brothers: 6/10 The Supremes, Mary Wells, Brenda Holloway, Barbara Mason. Joan Baez - 1 For now, he just misses the cut. Posted by Zach on Wednesday, 10/30/2013 @ 17:40pm, Hi, Zach. The Miracles, Motown's first group, are the most covered Motown group of all time. ELO - 1 Dolph Schayes, 59. And I'd love to invent a 0 just for Def Leppard. Sister Rosetta Tharpe- 5 144. Still hasnt talked about a ton of the top guys. Michael Jackson Dave Bing, 93. Nicest: I'd like to think Buddy Holly would get this one, if he were still alive. :) 154. Hell, when it comes time for kanye are we really gonna say his mark isn't bigger than say the who (who i love)? The Beach Boys I have adjustments: The Hollies He was truly unique in his play style. Well, if you honestly believe that the king of weepy singer-songwriters James Taylor (who has no business in any HOF other than the consignment store record bin HOF) did more to develop rock 'n roll (not rock music, that's a needless abbreviation) than The Ventures (with the exception of Booker T and the MG's, the most significant instrumental rock 'n roll band of the 1960s), then I have nothing to say (as Oliver Hardy would have said). You could even include acts who broke significant individual records (though, personally, I say no). Upgrade Depeche Mode, Whitney Houston, and T. Rex. I just don't have a problem with it. Greg Willard Spirit Award; NCAA Season Awards. http://www.beatlesebooks.com/hold-on-me, Posted by Bill G on Tuesday, 06/4/2019 @ 22:46pm. Eric Clapton: 9/10 However, I do disagree with you on Neil Young's ranking. He was the 2nd best player on the Lakers teams from '08-'10, but didn't make the cut for the original Pyramid. Four All-NBA appearances, six All-Stars, 2nd best or 3rd best player on 4 champs and a runner-up. Paul McCartney: 8/10 Level 3: The 2011 Finals might be the single most impressive accomplishment by a NBA player in my lifetime. "Can You Love a Poor Boy" Bobby Vee, Softones, Gil Bernal, Ronnie Walker. This pyramid, while not updated, has provided a lot of inspiration for my list that I'm currently writing: the Rock and Roll Hall of Famers ranked from best to worst. Deep Purple (Level 2) The Dells Judas Priest (Level 1 or 2) And of course not inducting producers like Eno, Rodgers, Perry, Rundgren, etc. 25. James Brown (and the Famous Flames) Posted by Mike on Thursday, 02/6/2014 @ 14:58pm, 1. Eagles: 9/10 Posted by Jack on Thursday, 12/18/2014 @ 15:01pm. I'm sure that you all accept that INFLUENCE is one of the most important factors in Musical Greatness. Chicago: 6/10 "Special Occasion - Jim Gilstrap. De Bravo, Little Willie G., Oran "Juice" Jones. 2021 3. Hank Ballard (and the Midnighters) Hey, the Thunder traded the wrong guy! Posted by AlexVoltaire on Thursday, 01/25/2018 @ 23:09pm. Lionel Richie (Level 1) Leonard Cohen: 7/10 Most weird inductee? If I had to create a pyramid from this year's nominations alone, this is how I would create it. Otherwise, the other groups I like althrough I disagree with you on Linda Ronstadt because I happen to like her music and her voice. 1. Journey 138. Jimi Hendrix Experience: 10/10 Pei, also designed the most famous modern pyramid, the controversial 1988 addition to the Louvre., 3. Since there are 221 as of now, two or three more should be promoted to level 5 (and more to the other levels), if only to maintain the proportions. NWA pulls a 2 and everyone else a 1. 2009 From what I can gather, they were celebrated because they never quite made it, and because, as is wont to happen, their creative limitations were reinterpreted as a profound artistic statement. But I was thinking of Dr. John too. Was Kazaam better than Steel? I would like to do the # ratings of performers of every class, for this I'll be giving them a number between 0 -10 out of 10 based on influence & innovation on popular music. Nope! 220. The comments in this section have also been helpful, and of course, my own personal opinions, tastes and whatnot. Allen Iverson, 42. Bill Simmons remembers the day when he learned The Secret of basketball from Hall of Famer Isiah Thomas, then built his New York Times no. YOU TELL ME !!! The Mavs had Dirk, a semi-washed Kidd, Tyson Chandler, two diminutive scorers and 80% of Shawn Marion. 9. Did they have transcendent songs and albums or memorable moments? Only one problem: 10 years later, were in the middle of the player empowerment era and The Secret might not matter anymore. I can name more than one song by Costello (come on, at least give him Pump it Up), but I really don't see a career that matches up well against The Talking Heads in terms of influence, innovation or popularity. Exactly, Posted by Matthew on Saturday, 05/25/2013 @ 12:13pm. Though if Davis and Simon couldn't be Level 2 I don't see Parton sadly. It's a smaller body of work. bill simmons hall of fame pyramid updated Posted by On August 15, 2020 0 romanian gas mask KG had a few years post-2010, but nothing that would've moved him up the ladder so to speak.Personally, I'd have KG in the middle of that group. 184. Pearl Jam and Nina Simone are borderline Level 2/3 acts, in my opinion. Level 3 by Nash. 67. The Book of Basketball was an achievement. What did that night say about Shaq, that bizarre Lakers season, and a now-underrated champion from Detroit that wouldnt roll over? 11. Posted by Kyle on Wednesday, 07/26/2017 @ 18:50pm. Ritchie Valens: 7/10 These are basically "L3" guys, only there's something just inherently "greater" about them. "I've Been Good To You" Marshall Crenshaw, Brenda Holloway, Joe Meek, The Temptones, Ray, Goodman & Brown (The Moments), The Ones, The Temptations. 58. Kevin McHale, 40. Madonna 8/10 = No Brainers After reading your comment, here's how I would fix the pyramid: Heckthe first Motown act, PERIOD. Just asking for clarification. Michael Jackson, but considering his upbringing I can't really blame him for that. 135. John Lennon should be moved way, way down. Dolly Parton (Level 2) I mean does anyone (be honest) go home and listen to a Ramones record? Bob Seger: 7/10 Patti Smith 4. Lennon's massive hypocrisy shouldn't be overlooked either. Bill Simmons Hall of Fame Pyramid: Give Major Weakness of the top 10 NBA All Time. But he's not better than Magic, Kareem, Bird, Shaq, Kobe, Duncan. The Drifters Lots of 1s easily are 3 and 4s. Posted by Mark on Wednesday, 05/8/2019 @ 17:32pm. The Staple Singers (This is an incomplete list, as songs by the Miracles continue to be covered by more artists each year) I was reviewing a post which I had written some time ago. Carl Perkins Blondie: 8/10 Green Day is maybe a 2. Eurythmics (Level 1) Posted by Tony on Friday, 08/8/2014 @ 17:19pm, Overrated, or too high on the pyramid: Ramones, Elton John, Little Richard, The Clash, Elvis Costello, Aerosmith, Blondie, Alice Cooper, Genesis. Now, look at that list of artists' cover versions of MIRACLES' songs and ask yourselves: It's not the first time I've seen them being underrated. 11. 196. The people at the top are more of the big timers, to me. James Harden is no slouch. On which levels do you think each of these artists belongs? Both haven't been to the Finals. Posted by Joe on Friday, 12/18/2015 @ 02:56am, For what it's worth (and my guess), the levels for the new inductees would be: "Baby Baby Don't Cry" Gerald Wilson and His Orchestra, Projekt. Because of the lamestream press' overhype of the Pistols, several people actually think they started punk rock, which of course they didn't. 13. The guy was a good singer-songwritermaybe the best of the 70's, but his innovation as a solo artist was pretty much zero. Led Zeppelin: 10/10 8. Eddie Cochran This website really needs to update the rock hall pyramid. Curtis Mayfield: 9/10 The Hollies: 3/10 1. Randy Newman They wrote 95 % of their OWN HITSplus hits for THE TEMPTATIIONS , MARVIN GAYE, MARY WELLS, THE MARVELETTES,and NUMEROUS OTHERS !! Part 2 coming soon! Pat Benatar: 6/10 Do you know when he mentioned this? There are many, many 2000s and '10s era bands that are more engaging. Al Ciraldo Voice of Georgia Tech Athletics. Ray Charles The Flamingos: 6/10 Elvis Presley: 10/10 Gladys Knight and the Pips Michael Jackson: 10/10 Diana Ross seems to be a rather unpleasant lady based on her public outbursts. Anyways, hope you browsed through. I fully expect him to skyrocket up these rankings as soon as this summer. 1993 Patrick Ewing. So really Somebody else played their brand of rock and roll around their time who was better. 62. Jefferson Airplane: 8/10 Posted by Zach on Wednesday, 10/30/2013 @ 23:07pm. The Outsiders See More by this Creator. Too many, though I'd probably say the Stones for starters. "Mighty Good Lovin"-Edwin Starr, Chris Clark. I would think acts like Parliament - Funkadelic, Sex Pistols, Frank Zappa, Curtis Mayfield, The Stooges, AC/DC, Guns N' Roses & The Yardbirds should move up to Level 3 because they have defined genres in their own right. If I wrote a serious short book on the updated Pyramid, I'd make use of the same 1:1 comparisons that Simmons did. Jay-Z-3 but would also be fine with 4 if Eminem gets 4 as well. 2 America - a secret airline run by the CIA - flew missions no one else would touch, from General Claire Cennault's legendary Flying Tigers in WW II Queen and Black Sabbath, by far. The Doors My occasional communication efforts within this forum is generally framed around acknowledging my own biases and attempting to subvert them for more rationale dialog. Jimmy Reed: 8/10 6. The Blues Brothers 122. 2018 No, I just want to see on anyone's opinion on the Hall's inductees. Great survey, John! Moody Blues - 2 I also searched Twitter and Google to find updates before then. Del Shannon It was a hell of a three seasons spaced out over six years, but it was just three seasons. Please keep comments relevant to the topic. Mike Roberts WVEE-FM & WQMJ 2015 70. . No. That's who he is. School of Rock IMO Manu was damn good and didn't get the traditional accolades to back it up. The Velvet Underground: 10/10 LaVern Baker Gene Pitney: 5/10 Please also read our Privacy Notice and Terms of Use, which became effective December 20, 2019. The Everly Brothers Karl Malone, 21. My guess is NWA at 3, Chicago and Deep Purple at 2, Cheap Trick and Steve Miller at 1. 9/10 = All Time Greats Sam and Dave 64. 4. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Miracles_discography Dennis Johnson, 61. 177. The Moody Blues, when inducted, should sit on the 5th tier. 12. Chicago 1 Back To The Future Bob Seger "The Tears of a Clown" La Toya Jackson, The Beat, The Rocking Chairs, The Re-Bops, Nnenna Freelon, The Flying Pickets, Caligula, Human Nature, Enuff Z'Nuff, Eumir Deodato, Brian Ray, Marc Cohn, Phil Collins. Blake Griffin doesn't make the Pyramid, but he was a Top 3 guy for a few years there. Biggest botch Hilarious. Bill Sharman, 60. Guns N' Roses Designated for marginal acts who are considered "Borderline Hall of Famers," either because of the Zombies Factor (great career, not long enough) or the Bon Jovi Factor (very good for a long time, rarely great). Blondie I have seen that. Jay - Z: 10/10 Joan Baez: 6/10 Led Zeppelin Pearl Jam - 3 (there could be an argument as to why they should be a 4, but they are at least a 3), Posted by Nick on Monday, 07/31/2017 @ 11:48am, Where do you think 2018s nominees would belong on the pyramid? 6/10 = Decent Artists The Kinks The Moonglows: 6/10 The Band: 9/10 -the Who, the Dave Clark Five being a close second despite their clean polished sound, they were loud and energetic. t. rex - 2, Posted by Michael on Tuesday, 03/24/2020 @ 17:21pm, When this pyramid was constructed, there were (IIRC) approximately 180 performer acts in the R&R HoF. "From Head to Toe" Elvis Costello, Chris Clark 5/10 = Average/Borderline . None of them were saints though. The Cars: 7/10 Miles Davis: 9/10 149. 27. 140. They have reached such a high level of popularity & respect. Has any modern superstar ever had more career-related what ifs? On point! Randy Newman: 6/10 Buddy Guy: 8/10 He finished Top 10 in MVP voting 4 times. John Lennon: 10/10 Eminem (Last one for awhile, maybe Kanye will reach that when he is eligible), Posted by Plebeian on Tuesday, 05/10/2022 @ 02:19am. "(Come 'Round Here) I'm The One You Need " The Jackson 5, The Cowsills, The GP's I'd say level 4 is also impossible for anyone not in the hall currently as well. -I've heard stories that James Brown was a ballbuster. If artist X is in, why isn't artist Y? 224. 57. I wouldn't put KD over KG or Dirk, but he's definitely over Curry. Posted by Kyle on Monday, 04/23/2018 @ 05:37am. George Harrison: 8/10 Outside of Biggie and Jay-Z, no one else really needs to be above Level 1. 12. Most nicest inductee? De Bravo, Little Willie G., Oran "Juice" Jones. James Brown. "Much Better Off" J Dilla. Donna Summer (middle 3rd) 11. 15. "More, More, More of Your Love" Bob Brady & the Con Chords 65. 14. Sex Pistols Cheap Trick 2nd tier works. The Ramones are a case in point. 125. I put Costello on the same level as the Pretenders, a critically loved band whose music doesn't hold up. LEVEL 4 ? New York Dolls (Level 1) Posted by Scott on Thursday, 10/8/2015 @ 16:53pm, Posted by Scott on Thursday, 10/8/2015 @ 16:55pm. The Animals: 8/10 Much as I dislike them, The Byrds ought to go to the fourth level. 2000 Since then, he has mentioned in episodes of his podcast numerous changes that he has made to this list. 192. Rush (middle 4th) 175. I would like to see it. 79. Posted by Enigmaticus on Saturday, 11/2/2013 @ 11:04am. I would've put Whitney Houston at Level 2, or 3 at most, because of how commercially successful she was and influenced a lot of singers to this day. Neil Diamond Posted by Bill G. on Thursday, 01/29/2015 @ 19:58pm. Journey: 3/10 The Small Faces/Faces, The Hollies, and The Ventures Heart Dire Straits (borerline 1/2) Monty Python's The Meaning of Life Joni Mitchell and Van Morrison at 3 should bump a few from 4.. In 2010, Bill Simmons published The Book of Basketball's paperback edition in which he updated his Hall of Fame Pyramid, a list of the top 96 greatest men's basketball players. Bon Jovi, Posted by Joe on Tuesday, 04/27/2021 @ 05:25am. "Doggone Right" Bobby Davis. -Most snubbed? Paul McCartney at 2? Posted by The_Claw on Friday, 01/26/2018 @ 04:11am. Whats legacy, anyway? Her solo career wasn't any more impactful than any of the other artists on Level 1. Level 4: Leonard Cohen Deep Purple: Level 3 36 Sly and the Family Stone And if you did mean the bottom tier, I'm a little surprised putting Joan Baez down there. Wilson Pickett: 9/10 Van Halen 15. Posted by Handsome Bob on Thursday, 05/16/2019 @ 23:13pm, ** THE MIRACLESand why they SHOULD be Level 4:** 96. 1988 "Yester Love" Gerald Wilson & His Orchestra I blame the clowns on the committee for it - but Deep Purple should be on this list AND at level 3. It's just how the hall seems to operate now. "Determination" The Contours. Depeche Mode (Level 2) James Taylor: 8/10 My recent finds include Whispering Jack Smith, Billy Eckstine (What a voice this man had! Posted by FRL on Tuesday, 01/1/2019 @ 10:05am. The Isley Brothers Did they hit sell millions of records, have over a dozen hits or win a lot of awards? Radiohead have been called the last important rock band by tons of people. Lavish parties excluded then the guys from Queen. But as long as they are moved up to the 4th tier, I will not be very disappointed. - The initial pyramid had 96 players after 64 NBA seasons, so 1.5 players per season. 27 Johnny Cash Whatever his legacy, he'll be remembered for taking that road. 72. Posted by Enigmaticus on Wednesday, 10/22/2014 @ 09:34am, In my honest opinion, Rush should also be placed a lot higher, at least, preferably in the middle of the 4th tier, slightly lower than Pink Floyd and slightly below, soon to be inducted, Yes. Before his ACL, he was the best player in the league. KISS Nobody above him had a shorter period of being in that stratosphere. "Love Machine" Wham!, Thelma Houston But, to each their own. Nicest inductee: Buddy Holly [if he was still alive], Queen, Roger Daltery, Tony Iommi, Fats Domino. Journey: Influenced Bon Jovi. Ricky Nelson: 9/10 95. And yes, the RRHOF still is missing a Tier 4 group in Kraftwerk because the voters are idiots who hate Electronic music (amongst other things). Stevie Wonder. Whitney Houston: 9/10 207. James Taylor, Joni Mitchell, and Linda Rondnstadt 10/10 = Immortals, Legends & Icons Were the 2012-14 Spurs historically underrated? Miles Davis The Impressions: 7/10 Read our Privacy Policy and Cookie Policy to get more information and learn how to set up your preferences. Posted by Shrek on Friday, 01/4/2019 @ 18:59pm. Some QUALIFYING QUESTIONS: Peter Gabriel Rage Against the Machine (Level 1 or 2) 12. Tom Waits -Civilized? 213. The Meters - 1, Posted by Tyler on Friday, 10/6/2017 @ 12:50pm, The pyramid hasnt been updated with last years inductees, but here is my take on 2018: Even as he was on the downside of his career, he was still hitting huge shots that swung championships. If not them, then Hendrix, probably. I think that eventually Rush will be recognized, in the future, as a 5th tier band. Albert King: 1, Posted by Classic Rock on Monday, 02/11/2013 @ 20:53pm. Is there anyone not in the Hall who could be a 4? -the Non-Performers? If we remove people who probably killed someone from contention, Paul Stanley's complete lack of grace during the induction process stands out. He could've complained about being a 6th man, but didn't. Stevie Wonder: 10/10 He was a musical revolutionary for whom the record industry had to create new marketing terms to describe. Jerry West, 9. Janet Jackson And from 2017: Is the top rung ever going to be added to? Bump him up. Fats Domino should be moved up four rows. 167. Metallica 57. Jeff Beck: 7/10 Buffalo Springfield I watched the entire series. Dusty Springfield: 8/10 Buddy Holly & The Crickets: 10/10 Posted by Shrek on Monday, 01/7/2019 @ 13:23pm. 2) THE TEMPTATIONS at # 67 Jimmy Reed To learn more or opt-out, read our Cookie Policy. KING, Posted by KING on Monday, 06/29/2015 @ 01:24am. Pink Floyd Most influential besides The Beatles, Elvis Presley, and Chuck Berry? 7. Ruth Brown: 8/10 Saving Private Ryan Except perhaps Bon Jovi, which I would put in the sub-basement if it were within my power to do so. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. The Temptations Jo Jo White, 108. Los Lobos Bill Simmons Hall of Fame Pyramid; ABA All-Time Team; NBA & ABA All-Star Game. 76. The Byrds: 10/10 Both have had three great years. Nine Inch Nails "The Tracks of My Tears " Linda Ronstadt, Aretha Franklin, Johnny Rivers, Gladys Knight & the Pips, Mongo Santamara, Martha and the Vandellas, Bryan Ferry, Bjrns Vnner (as Ser Jag Ut Att M Bra? LEVEL 3 ?? Very, very influential among a myriad of genres and artists. 1991 Howlin' Wolf Joan Baez Elton John ELO, Joan Baez, Yes, Tupac Shakur, Journey, Pearl Jam, Bon Jovi, Dire Straits, Sister Rosetta Thorpe, The Cars, Nina Simone, Moody Blues. The success of the Miracles actually launched the Motown Records label, and, according to Motown Records founder, Berry Gordy, without the Miracles,the Motown Record Corporation would not have been possible." Industry had to create a pyramid from this year 's nominations alone, is. 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