We also may change the frequency you receive our emails from us in order to keep you up to date and give you the best relevant information possible. I contacted D.S. Only by comparing D.N.A. The police think that Hoyles, who as mentioned above passed Muriel on her way home, encountered Muriels killer weeks before her death. The Little Red Riding Hood murder of Muriel Drinkwater. [8], Last edited on 11 February 2023, at 09:11, List of unsolved murders in the United Kingdom, "Marwolaeth merch yn parhau'n ddirgelwch", "The Muriel Drinkwater case: can they crack the coldest murder case? As part of the investigation forensic evidence has been re-examined and officers have considered theories that convicted murderer Harold Jones was . The detectives in the programme got a breakthrough when they were able to track down Muriel's relative Martin Phillips, who had been six at the time of the murder. Learn more about managing a memorial . will do what you suggest. Do not sell or share my personal information. Thank you for sharing this detailed update on Muriels case with the community. As always you can unsubscribe at any time. The police found the murder weapon in the undergrowth near where Muriels body had been discovered. It was believed the victim's clothes had been lost. But he was later released and served in World War II before his military career ended in 1946. I would like to request an internal review of (an adverse) decision made by South Wales Police regarding information I requested on 28-6-21. Was a local stalking Muriel? On July 7, 1946, eleven-year-old Sheila Martin was raped and strangled in woods near her home in Dartford. This seems like a dubious connection because there is roughly 230 miles (370 kilometres) between Dartford and Penllergaer,but on the day of Sheilas murder a large race meeting was held at Brands Hatch with over 9,000 attendees, one of whom could have been both Muriel and Shielas killer. 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Photo added by Tracey. [7], The next day, Drinkwater's body was found in the woods by a police inspector. On 30 March 2010 the Times Online quoted an unnamed police source with South Wales Police as saying: We have a real problem with amateur sleuths in this area. She was last seen at 2:30 p.m., singing as she headed for the one-mile walk to her family's home, Tyle-Du Farm. I am in regular contact with a niece of Muriel Drinkwater who has told me that members of her family gave South Wales Police samples of their D.N.A.. Sometimes the rumours and suspicion in these unsolved cases does almost as much damage to the community as the crime itself. She said: "He came to public attention in the early 1950s when he was convicted of murdering an older couple. Jones D.N.A was not compared to the D.N.A left on Muriels coat by the killer. "We had access to the files and identified that a semen stain had been found on the coat. Thanks again ~ Christine, Your email address will not be published. But Muriel, who was known locally as 'The Little Nightingale' because of her beautiful singing voice, never made it home. [11] Hoyles, who saw Drinkwater after buying eggs at her parents' farm, was cleared by the DNA evidence. Fingers crossed that one day a DNA match can give us the breakthrough needed to solve this case. Muriel Joan Drinkwater was the youngest of four daughters born to John Percival and Margaret ( ne Morgans) Drinkwater. Does his daughter have a son.? They visited the Carmarthen bookshop to identify if the killers family had taken the books there. Only the exhumation of Jones body or D.N.A. Muriel was skipping through the woods on the afternoon of June 27, 1946, as she did every day on her way from school, when the summer's afternoon turned to tragedy. Jones was only 15 when he killed eight-year-old Freda Burnell, who'd been sent by her father to buy bird seed from the store where Jones was working. Nevertheless, the FBI was called in to assist with determining the ownership of the murder weapon, but nothing seems to have ever transpired from this lead. 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She was still wearing her school uniform. Her killer has never been caught and it remains among the most notorious unsolved murders in Welsh history you can read more of them here. Video, 00:01:18Record numbers of guide dog volunteers after BBC story, One-minute World News. After discussing this development with Muriels niece, myself, Muriels niece and a number of of her nursing friends came to the same conclusion that if Jones daughter isnt his biological daughter then Jones could not completely rule out Jones as a suspect. Hi Nicola. Well here is the TRUTH. Now cutting-edge forensics to rival any TV thriller have identified her killers DNA Daily Mail article, Unsolved: The Little Red Riding Hood murder Sword and Scale article, Muriel Drinkwater murder file is declared secret at request of police The Sunday Times article. Thought to be one of the oldest pieces of crime scene evidence in the world, it was initially used to rule from suspicion someone who had been spotted close to the woods on the afternoon Muriel was attacked. If true, it could have placed him in the area at the time of Muriel's murder. I received the following letter from D.C. Paul Rogers on 6 December 2007. And shockingly the reply was that the information I requested was in written format and would take at least 16 hours at a cost of more than 450 to supply and my request was denied. She was was found murdered in 1980 in a field in Dixon, CA. It is currently one of the oldest active cold cases in the UK. left on the coat was compared to D.N.A. He could possibly be a rival farmer and or business owner, we can tell the Drinkwaters run a business due to the fact that Hoyles bought eggs from Margaret Drinkwater, near to the death of Muriel Drinkwater. Request number 772/21. She was beaten, raped and shot twice just yards from her family's isolated farmhouse in 1946. He can't understand why people would think he killed them. She was last seen at 2:30 p.m., singing as she headed for the one-mile walk to her family's home, Tyle-Du Farm. [4], More than 3,000 mourners attended Drinkwater's funeral on 2 July. Or by navigating to the user icon in the top right. In mid 2007, I had extensive contact with Detective Constable Paul Rogers of the London Metropolitan Police. She was shot twice in the chest. She was singing . The reason given for sealing the files was that it could help the police catch the perpetrator. 12 year old Muriel Drinkwater had only a mile to travel from the South Wales village of Penllergaer to the farm she lived on with her family. It was an article that said that Harries had worked for Muriel's father John at the time of her murder. Although an extensive investigation was conducted that involved the police visiting every farmhouse and cottage within 150 square miles and interviewing 20,000 men in Swansea, Aberdare and Carmarthenshire, the case that has become known as theLittle Red Riding Hood Murder remains unsolved. Muriels nieces family took the books to the bookshop after Muriels brother-in-law died last year. ", "Groundbreaking DNA test rules out childkiller in unsolved murder", 74 years ago, Muriel Drinkwater was murdered. All the best with pursuing answers in this case, and please keep us updated. The hardest part then was actually finding the materials," he told the documentary. D.S. The Photo Request has been fulfilled. I personally think it was someone still in the area from the Second World war. The murder of Muriel Drinkwater is an unsolved 1946 child murder case from Wales. D.C, Paul Rogers, independent of Victor Penalunas theory, contacted me by phone and told me that his research had led him to believe that Harold Jones may have been Muriel Drinkwaters killer. Given that Hoyles was the last person to see Muriel alive, he quickly fell under a thick veil of suspicion. South Wales Police said: "All historic murder cases, often referred to in the media as cold cases, are allocated to the Specialist Crime Review Unit and remain under active consideration and will be subject of re-investigation as and when new information is received or when there are advances in forensic science. The Welsh policehave also examined connections between Muriels case and a second murder that occurred a mere ten days after she was killed. It was believed a similar weapon had been used in the murder of a cinema manager in Bristol. Dubbed the 'Little Red Riding Hood murder', the. "It does make you think that Muriel Drinkwater (who passed her 11-Plus to get into grammar school) is the sort of girl he would have been interested in. Great questions! Margaret went out into the yard and her and Muriel exchanged waves. [13] However, in 2019, South Wales Police stated that forensic tests on the DNA "categorically confirm that Jones was not responsible for the murder of Muriel Drinkwater. Neil Milkins. The identity of the man who murdered a schoolgirl in 1946 remains a mystery after DNA left on her'little red riding hood' coat failed to link to a notorious child killer. He stated that I was barking up the wrong tree regarding Harold Jones having killed Muriel and finished by saying Happy Hunting before slamming the phone down on me. Neil Milkins. Regards. In 2008,Detective Chief Inspector Paul Bethell located Muriels blue coat, underwear, and school uniform in police storage. I was able to edit the comment for you before it went live. https://www.abc10.com/amp/article/news/crime/prison-inmate-accused-42-year-old-homicide-in-dixon-area/103-535ec3ad-2aa1-4d10-94a7-aafe4f6081ff, We are thrilled to announce that remains discovered in 2017 in Sanford, Maine at a building site have been identified. Video, 00:02:56Detectives to revisit unsolved murder, Tears of relief after man found in Amazon jungle. Click hereto hear the Audio File of this case. Both girls were murdered in woods within a half mile of their homes. I can be contacted at [emailprotected] or via Facebook messenger. And if you want to write a guest post that covers the update for distribution on the website, let us know. It truly is baffling and I cant help but wonder what they are trying to hide (and why!). The views expressed in the contents above are those of our users and do not necessarily reflect the views of MailOnline. 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Two other specific persons of interest have been put forward. taken from Jones exhumed body can the police honestly say catergorically that Jones was or was not Muriels killer. [3] In 2008, a DNA profile of the suspect was extracted from her clothes, possibly the oldest sample in the world to be successfully extracted in a murder investigation. Norah Irene Bartlett. It was also tested against the DNA of one Harold Jones, a convicted double child murderer who slayed two similarly young girls in Abertillery in the 1920s, to see if he might be the perpetrator. Regards. She goes to grammar school. And four months after Jones left the army Muriel was raped and shot dead as she walked home from a school bus in Penllergaer, Swansea. MLS breaks attendance records on the opening weekend of the new season as both Charlotte and Atlanta welcome over 67,000 fans - more than the average crowd at 13 NFL teams! "Looking through the paper work, we could see the materials had left the crime scene, where it had gone, where it had been examined. With the help from a niece of Muriel Drinkwater I pursued my research which led to South Wales Police taking a D.N.A. Unless he bludgeoned first then he raped, this would have caught her by surprise. "We realise whoever did this might be dead, but if he is alive and in his 80s or even 90s we would like to see him behind bars," said Muriel's great-niece Claire Phillips, speaking about developments last October. I hope Margaret gets the answers she deserves sooner rather than later. This was no spur of the moment event. This murder shook the village and all the boys came under suspicion. He described the search for the clothes that had been taken from the crime scene. Hoyles lamented, For years, Ive lived with the knowledge that some people in the community suspected me. Learn more about managing a memorial . Heres hoping one day soon Muriel gets some semblance of justice. He must have known she was near home because she waved and if we are saying this was a planned attack he wouldve studied Muriels routine, studied her route, he was near where her route went, that is a very specific route to go in and out the forest, and with balance of probability he therefore must have known Muriel and her family business to cripple the mother to cripple the business. She disappeared around the bend into some more dense undergrowth. Just before she entered the woods she looked up to see the farm in the distance. It is currently one of the oldest active cold cases in the UK. Updated: August 30, 2013 . Your email address will not be published. [4] In 2019, the DNA was used to rule out notorious Welsh murderer Harold Jones as a suspect. Ms Drinkwater was seen by her mother in the distance. to have gone on to kill six women in London in the 1960s - and was dubbed Jack The Stripper. 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