(link to my Episode 8 write up because it wasnt letting me do it as a word hyperlink: http://www.dramabeans.com/members/sicarius/activity/709687/ ). The point I was trying to make in this essay, is that I think The Crowned Clown has objectively bad writing flaws- namely Yi Heon is an example of bad character writing, whether he dies or not (@leetennant) Its time for our clown to sink or swim on his own, and one wrong move could mean his death and the death of everyone he cares about. I liked seeing the leads, the romance was sweet to the point of unbelievable, but what the heck. The Crowned Clown: Episode 16 (Final) by LollyPip It's time for our clown to sink or swim on his own, and one wrong move could mean his death and the death of everyone he cares about. It was a great journey and Yeo Jin Gu really killed it. If you have time, do go to MLSHR recaps and threads, even if you don't watch it. Not fond of separation endings. Could it be that Lee Kyoung-young's recent turn as the Big Bad in supernatural thriller ROOM NO. Was glad when I saw Officer Jang want to accompany him, but then when those assassins attacked I was like????? And I almost didnt even watch the reunion scene at the end because I knew exactly how it would play out. He reaches up a hand for Ha Sun to grasp, then he dies, leaving Ha Sun wracked with grief. Which sounds all well good. Cant explain how the Queen died, but the whole scene implies that they are walking into eternity together. And all conflict and tension that should exist because of a Clown being a fake King on a throne and surrounded by people that want to kill him, goes away. Do not base it on a doppelganger trope, only to IGNORE the implications and potential and importance of that doppelganger trope. Also I don't see why kill Moo Young in the last moment right when he had finally accepted Ha-Sun as his Master, it felt out of the blue. At the very least, he would have to be conflicted about it, because he was only obeying Haksans orders because they came from the king or were in the kings best interests. But then theres no indication he ever did learn the truth, and he kept serving Ha Seon as king, and the show then tried to pass off him dying to save Ha Seon (after Ha Seon has already abdicated the throne) as being the same thing as dying in the line of duty as a royal guard. Ultimately, the show may have raised interesting questions, intentionally or not, but it gives a simplistic answer that's wholly unsatisfying in this regard. Thank you. It would have been interesting to see him evolving and becoming paranoid. She did get to meet his sister without knowing it was her. The cliffhangers and the drums-terrific; and See you over at HAECHI, which I am enjoying so far. Thank you so much for taking the time to make these recaps. I'll definitely read it. I have no qualms about it. I bitched about this on my fan wall, but I'm so pissed I'll repeat myself. Two years pass, then HS shows up talking about how much time had passed when he woke up. There's no telling how much faulty impressions you'd get if your 1st sageuk was MLSHR or Hwarang or Moon embracing the Sun, because then you'll have it on high pedestal, comparing the other Sageuks to your 1st one for some time for all the wrong reasons. If he ever has to hang his acting hat on a piece of his work in my mind all he has to say is: episodes 7 and 8 in TTC. The makers of this show (and I assume the movie) decided to show that story by means of a doppelganger plot. Who wouldn't, if they were up against Hae Mo-su and his badass grandson?! I wanted to see some little clowns running around. Nevertheless, it takes me a while to get my thoughts in order, so I don't comment in a timely fashion. The king very much liked practical jokes. 4 Jul 2021. That too, out of desperation I would have taken as some sort of poetic justice, because Yi Heon died so Ha Seon could be king, and Ha Seon died because of Yi Heon's crimes against the Queen Dowager. I initially thought they should have kept yi heon for few more episodes which i mentioned in my comments under ep 8. This does not mean you cannot enjoy it. Among the antogonistic, closed-mided high officials, there was a belief of a there being a clowned crown. Minister Shin manages to growl, You lowly clown before Ha Sun yanks back his sword and slashes his throat. I think they could show us the Lord "I don't remember his name" rebellion because it was not very clear and still had a big place in the story of this character. I enjoyed this more than most of the sageuks I've seen. But i liked the way things happened in this drama as well. The ending of The Crown season 5 centers on Queen Elizabeth II's (Imelda Staunton) dramatic feelings of obsolescence while Prince Charles (Dominic West) fruitlessly campaigns for greater stature as the future King and the tragic fate of Princess Diana (Elizabeth Debicki) hangs in the air. Eunuch Jo asks to come with him, but Ha Sun says he cant because hes recommended him for a promotion, and the new king needs him as much as he did when he first arrived in the palace. That there was a progression to his devolution and, put into the same environment, the Clown was going to start to devolve the same way. Anyway, overall best Korean drama ever! I've tried to watch it about four times now and still I could anticipate the bad taste it would leave in my mouth. No one would let a lowborn guy like him to rule if he was not able to fool everyone to think he is the king. Predictable and flat waiting period for the queen. 2023 TheReviewGeek. Not to mention that Ha Sun The Clown didn't even get to be a clown very much, so where was that characterization? I'm probably in the minority for this opinion, but I thought it was a bold move for the show to have Lee Kyu kill the king in secret and become the "king" from the shadows. They showed a lot of "dream-like" features for that last scene in particular which suggested how they both died and are actually meeting at the after life : ( ( ( (. }; A concern for royal doctors. Just when I thought this drama couldnt get any worse they introduced the seperation trope! It was quite unpredictable and almost each episode ended with a cliffhanger . Premiere Watch: Neighborhood Lawyer Jo Deul-ho 2, The Crowned Clown, Whats Wrong Mr. Poong-sang, The clown gets a lesson on how to be a king, Three teasers for The Man Who Became King, Lee Kyu-han joins The Man Who Became King, Yeo Jin-gu, Lee Se-young become the king and queen of Joseon, First script read for The Man Who Became King, The Man Who Became King confirms main pairing Yeo Jin-gu, Lee Se-young, Lee Se-young courted to be Yeo Jin-gus queen in Gwanghae remake, http://www.dramabeans.com/members/sicarius/activity/709687/, LT is Irresistibly Indifferent, Dame Judi. I personally think they could have used the King's death and still told an interesting and important story. But overall i really had fun and thrill watching it. This is not his fault; he is not a real person. And your flimsy attempts at trying to justify this by saying that Ha Seon was better than Yi Heon and would never succumb to what Yi Heon did, mean nothing if you refuse to develop Yi Heon as a character! Because everything the Clown does under pretense as the King, will be seen by the other characters, as being done by the King. Give me a break. It was a beautiful journey, and when the last episode ended I felt a little sad to say goodbye to them all. After a brief recap to the events of last week, we begin with Queen Dowager and the former Left State Minister plotting their next move. He should have walked away, been protected by the officer, who would then accompany him as he returned to the village incognito to meet up with his sister and the queen. <- this is exactly what I was expecting. Minister Lees body is taken into the palace, where Ho-geol sobs over him. :). Ha Sun has become immune to this mans slippery techniques of deception. It's also funny how if you have slip up and say it backwards (like I often have), and you happen to say the word as spoonerism ( Clowned Crown) it still manages to highlight some of the show. (function(d, s, id) { Ha Sun says shakily that its not a dream, but that hes walked endlessly in a dream to find her. Like, we see the Queen leaving her Lady behind to go for a walk. I hate sounding petty, but, uh, what? The Queen- The Clown saved the Queen, thus the Queen forgave him, and then also abandoned the King as a pre existing character. Shes the most despicable queen dowager ever, worth being poisoned to death immediately afterwards. But I'm still not sure how the Queen managed to stop feeling guilty over her initially inadvertent betrayal of Yi Heon. But still could not convince other ministers because if they were proved wrong they will loose their necks. I really loved this show, but they botched it in the end. That was unfair!! The Crowned Clown (Episode 16, Finale) Drama: The Crowned Clown (English title) / Man Who Become King (Literal) Orignal name: / Wangyi Doen Namja Director: Kim Hee-Won Writer: Kim Sun-Deok, Shin Ha-Eun Network: tvN Episodes: 16 Release Date: January 7 -- March 4, 2019 I thought I would have caught up through at least ep. (I did watch it, and I was right.). I dont understand where he was for 2 years, This outstanding! It was pretty good Korean Soap Opera but so much tragedy and I did want Haskan to have survived for his happy ending but not to be. (In case you don't know, it's a weekly article we had then to publish the BEST comments of the week. Because, when making a sad ending, you have to make it believable enough so that the viewer does not feel like theyre being unnecessarily hurt. End of story. He believes that nobody should sit on the throne who wants to use it for personal gain, and that he wants to step down because he wants to go back to being one of the people. Thank you, Peony, I'll give a look if I have time. Let me say it again. I stopped watching at episode 10 since I had time-constraints and felt that the pace was a little slow or maybe just that I lacked time. Like you, I'll pray to the Drama Gods that we be preserved from simultaneous sageuk scheduling in the future. Its based on Ha Suns name, which means summer fairy, and Eunuch Jo says it perfectly suits him because hes like the summer sun that shines equally over everyone. I was happy as a clam that Eunuch Jo and Ho-geol survived the rebellion. Kudos to the entire production team. I was expecting more repercussions and a deeper analysis into these morally grey characters, but their actions, especially the murder of Yi Heon, were brushed over in simple strokes, diminishing the weight and impact of these moments. episodes (13-16) I think it has found its groove (for me at least.) From shock and tension through to sadness and bittersweet goodbyes, this 75 minute episode encapsulated everything I've loved about this show since I begun covering it 2 months ago. Legacy? For me, the difference between Minister Lees decisions to end a life and Minister Shins or the queen dowagers is the intent. That means, that everybody else in the entire canon palace world of this show, thinks, the Clown, is a KING they already know. Honestly, his death was really a nice plot in the story. D Gray Man The 14th and Crown Clown Explained [CONFUSION CLEARED] 40,791 views Oct 18, 2019 1.1K Dislike Share Save Rash Plays 24.8K subscribers D Gray Man is amazing and I can't stress that. }(document, 'script', 'facebook-jssdk')); Please enter your username or email address. This probably means I have to watch "Vincenzo" to find out what Kim Hee-won's visual style is.) Nobody found out the King died because the Clown is the King. I'm relieved to know that you, too, find HAECHI a mental bandwidth hog. Stars Yeo Jin-gu Se-yeong Lee Kim Sang-kyung See production, box office & company info Watch on Prime Video For me the biggest issue wasnt necessarily killing the king off in and of itself (although I do agree that things could have been so much more interesting with more interaction between him and Ha Seon). It wasn't surprising. It's taking all my concentration, too. General Kang asks whether he should bring his men to the capital or prepare to fight at the border. This feels like irony in my perspective, since between episode 6 to 8, she says that it does not matter if Ha Sun is late or not, he will always be there. Why not let him save Ha Seon and then serve him for those two magic years? I dont feel that it did as good of a job as it could have in explaining why Minister Lee killed Prince Yul for Yi Heon, or framing his poisoning of Yi Heon as something he was doing for the country, even though it personally hurt him to do it. My favourite scene was the goodbyes between Eunuch Jo and the Clown, I really loved their relationship. Prolly will make the beeeest drama with 0 plotholes and AMAZING storyline. A great fit. It showed the King, as a character. They just look at each other for a long time, then So-woon says that she has this dream all the time, but when she approaches, he usually disappears. Again, why? The bad points : I'm not a fan of too much flashbacks, but in this case I think it would have been useful for the story, the end with jump in the future. And . Thats my point. Im glad that some other comments mentioned it here. It kept me Interested. In the dark of night, Minister Shin leads the rebel soldiers to the palace gates and orders them to kill the tyrant king. And it seems they were successful in it. I was also wishing and hoping to get more of Yi Heon's pre-addiction backstory. Its a matter of preference. (function(d, s, id) { I really liked this drama. He manages to throw his sword and take out the assassin about to finish off Ha Sun, then slips around Ha Sun to take the sword meant for him. He says that serving Ha Sun has been a once in a lifetime blessing, and they hug, both of them crying. Thats not all though as we soon find out. ). Por que eu achei que todos os inimigos estavam mortos. Strangely, the gates are wide open and the courtyard empty, so Minister Shin halts the soldiers and looks around suspiciously. Thats is why the drama is "Crowned clown" or "the man who became king" . Dont base it on a doppelganger trope at all if youre going to do that! It's songs were crappy, but the instrumentals hold their ground against even Dae Jang-geum and Arang and the Magistrate instrumentals. Lord Mountbatten (Charles Dance), a British Royal Navy . I swear you won't regret it. In fact, I was this close to forgoing this entire essay last night and just shitposting for this recap, like I did for Memories of Alhambra. Gimme a break! I'm getting into water-over-the-dam territory. I think @kiara tipped me off about it. So I dropped it. The fact that he did it on his own, without Minister Lees help, was sad but also impressive, and he proved to himself that hes capable of anything despite his low birth. I was relieved that he survived the rebellion, and presumably will serve the new king for years to come. HAECHI is my only live watch right now. I know its a tragedy but why so confusing. I suspect that having to contend with another court full of braying ministers was a bit too daunting. Why? She is depressed and gets yet another false hope that Hasun could be alive. Lord Giseong (cameo by Yoon Park), backs up Ha Sun, saying that he only wants to make sure the people are taking the correct medicines, making Ha Sun smile gratefully. :) I do not know of any other drama where it attracted the attention of so much of the wisest and knowledgeable beanies, SIMPLY because of its potential and not because it was actually a phenomenal drama. Hmmm. In re-reading the ep. Nope it was kinda too long. It saddens me that my sister can't do the same. Gotta watch the final episode again.??? They tell the story of a king who was as handsome as he was wise, and whose greatest talent was looking out for his people. After the Secretary stabbed Prince Jin, the Queen thanks Jin for his work thus far and instead vows to put another puppet in her stead on the throne to control. Hopefully you will and i would watch it definitely. From shock and tension through to sadness and bittersweet goodbyes, this 75 minute episode encapsulated everything Ive loved about this show since I begun covering it 2 months ago. But if its boring, nvm. Ohh man. I loved this drama as you said it wasn't perfect in every way but still it was great in many ways. I've watched enough sageuks to understand the ethos even if I don't always personally agree with it, and am disturbed when social conventions and obligations of earlier historical periods are flouted, or treated as if they don't exist. He falls to the ground, and although Moo-young tries to hold Ha Sun back, he breaks away and runs to cradle Minister Lees head in his arms. Without him, we wouldn't have a clown to be crowned. It didn't turn out to be a bad drama, but it's not like I missed something important! They suggest he bring in a new concubine to give him a son, and even So-woon thinks he should do it. But i am happy to see in other forums and under youtube comments majority liked it. That relationship? The Crowned Clown had so much potential, but most of it was gone by the second half of the drama. Even MLSHR didn't do that, although MLSHR overall was crappier than KL. Not because hes not royal, but because hes right that its not something that should belong to any one person, but should be used for the good of the people. xfbml : true, // parse social plugins on this page It's not surprising a lot of people think that Cray Cray's death was a narrative mistake. I don't know whether it was the difference in tone between it and CROWNED CLOWN, too many details, or what. He takes special care packing the embroidered bag from So-woon and the compass she bought him in the marketplace. Please click the link in that email to complete the email change process. Well have the full season review written up shortly but for now, its fair to say the show ended on a well-deserved high. Poof. It might have all been clear to Koreans or anyone else who knows the province names, but it seems to me like they were jerking us around by having the general from near the northern border turn around and then having another general turn up like magic. What, he doesnt get to benefit from the magic two year time leap ? *(Out of Character: not a logical decision for the character to make based on how they have acted previously). Lord Giseong agrees, saying that a kings job is to approve court discussions and take responsibility for the consequences, not wield power as he pleases, and Ha Sun regards him thoughtfully. A few final thoughts: I just wanted the man to be happy. 9 is following him into the sageuk? The two could have wandered the country checking that new reforms were taking place. How did he recover from 3 arrows??? There almost were- with the Queen almost committing suicide out of guilt, Shin almost exposing the Clown as a fake, and Ha Seon finding out Haksan killed the king. I guess my only questions are: Why? He was the king without the crown, the mastermind. knew it would happen before the end of this drama: line 7, strike TTC and insert TCC. ;-). Even jin pyong and dowager queen found it out in the last minute and the whole thing happened within 3, 4 months. Didnt want it to end. It was one of my most fun and blissful experiences here at DB. It has been a pleasure. At a couple of points in the past two years, I was simultaneously live-watching 9-10 dramas along with older shows and films. I felt that if Yi Heon got off his drugs a bit, he was very much capable of doing just that; protecting his place on the throne. Ha Sun orders the ministers waiting outside to enter. To show how good and righteous the Clown was? 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